.SEPTEMEBR <O VNI > 1995 c::> --- c::> __ _ c::> --- ------ Newsleotftt hePerh enomenRoens eaArscsho ciation Pri£c1ei nclupdoisntga ge MembeFrrse e PHENMOENONR ESEARCAHS SOCIATINOENW SLETTERS:E PTEMBER1 995 GroupL eader: Secretary: OmarF owler ClairUep ton 94 TheC ircle 3 HayeWso odR d. Sinfin StanleCyo mmon Derby Derbyshire DE259 HR DE76 GB Tel/Fa0x13 327 61464 Tel/Fa0x1 51 9321837 THEP RA INTERVIWEIWT HD R. JOHNE . MACK (Exclusive) At the personailn vitatioofn Dr. JohnE . Mack,y our editor attendead meetinagt Cla rid gesH otel,L ondono n August Bank HolidaMyo nda2y8 thA ugusbte tweeOnr Macka ndt heD irectordsf them agazin"eF lyinSga uceRre veiw". (OrM ackw asd uet o returtno theU SAt hef ollowindga y, as he waso n thef inall ego f a tourw hichh ad included AIftrailcya , andS witzerla.n d) Or JohnE . Macki s Professoorf PsychiatrHya,r varMde dical Schoola t theC ambridgHeo spitaaln dF oundinDgi rectoorf the Centefro r Pscyhologayn dS ocial ChanHgeei .s a PulitzePrr ize winnearn dw illb e bestk nowi n UFOc irclefso rh isr ecenbto ok "AbductioHnu:m anE ncounterWsi thA lien"s. It wast hisb ooka ndh ist elevisiaopnp earanctehsa tl andehdi m in 11howta te"r witht he authoritiaets HarvarUdn ivertsyi. This matwtheirc hh asn owb eenc oncludewda sr eferretdo during thed iscussiwoint hy our editor.A n abbreviatterda nsicprtion is givenb elow. Or JohnE . Mack:- I thinkI shoulmda kei t clearh owI camei ntot his.I do not considemry selfa 'ufologistI' ,d on'tc onsidemry selfa n experti n thisf ield.I starteddo ingt hisa bduction woonr k UFO'sa ndI 'ms tilln otu p to whati s goingo n. My own involvemenwti th this is quiter ecent,I became interestiend t hea bductiopnh enomenaosn a cliniciabne,c ause it seemetdo me thati f we wered ealinwgi ths omes orto f human experienceA.s fara s I couldt ella fterw orkinwgi tha number of thesec ases,a ll thei ndicatiownesr et hatt herew as some inexpilcablree lationshwiipt ha notheirn telligence. In thec oursoef my worki t is interestitnhga tI woulds eet he typeo f delusiontsh atp eopleh avea ndt heyd o noth avea lien or UFOd elusionist, i s justn ott het ypeo f thingt hatp eople getd elusionasbo ut. I've been happyt o discovetrh at in many Britishg roups interestasr e muchb roadetrh anA mericagnr oupsi n termso f religioaunsd s piritudailm ensionsI. t hinkt het echnology and whatt heya re (UFO',s )thisi nfromatioins veryi mportanbtu,t whati s it alla bout? I managedt o antagonisjeu sta boute verbyodyi n the United States! UFO grouhposp edt hat I wouldg ivet hiss ubject scientifirce spectabilbiyt yd emonstrationngc ea nd for all thatt he evidencaen d factss howedt hatt hesep eoplew ere physicalrleym oveidn eacha nd everyo ccasionw,h ichi s not true,n ori s it them ainp oint. Of courseI antagonisael l my medicalc olleaguebse causIe can'tu set heirc ontrollsetdu dym ethodolotgoy p rovea nything eithers,o I managetdo gett hew orsto f bothw orlds. I thinki t is a mistake fBourd dH opkinasn d DavidJ acobtso claim thiant e acha nde veryi nstancteh erei s whatB uddc alls a "outo f theh ousee xperienceb"u,tI don'tt hinkt hee vidence supporttsh at. Sometimteh e peoplea re actualloyb servetdo be missinagn d sometimetsh ef amiloyb servteh att hey( the' abducteei's) i n a trancea nd stilli n theirb ed. Buto n theo therh andI have casesw heree veryonies searchinagr oundw,h eret hep ersohna s disappearfeodr s everahlo urs. I havea case,n oti n my book,w herea womans,h ea ndh err oom­ mate were abducteadt the same time. The room-matwea s abductefdi rsta nds hew asl yingi n beda nds uddenltyh er oom­ mater eturnedS.h ec amed ownt hrougthh ec eilinagn d' plonk' ontot heb ed,t hens hew asa bducted you gete very possible • • • • combinatiionn t hisb usiness. Peoploe ftena sk me "whya re you so interestewdh,y arey ou goingo uto n a limb?"M y answetro thisi s "ifi n factw e are beingv isitebdy someo thers peciese,v eni f thisi s onlya possilbiit,y whya rey ou noti nterestiend t hisy ourself?T"h e burdeonf theq uestiosnh oulbde on thea skern,o to n me! Theo nlyr easotnh ata nyonpea ys anya ttentiotno me,w heny ou getr ightd ownt o it,i s thef actt hatI haveq uitei mpeccable credentiaalss a psychiatrcilci niciaIn ,c ant alkt o a person in deptha nds ay" I believiet 'st hisa ndn ott his" andt hat's allt hatI 'veg ot really.T he Universe seteom sse lectt he 1e astl ikelyp eoplet o do it'sw orka nd if theyh ad to find someonteh el eastu nlikley, theni f therei s a Goda ndt hatG od wasl ookinfgo ra n unlikelpye rsont o selectt o do thisw ork, theyc ouldn'hta vef ounda bettepre rsotnh anm e. I come from a very rationalistisce,c ularG ermaJne/wish backgrouwnhdi chi s connectewdi thb asic science, comipnl etely harde dgedt raditions. 2 - - - ---------------------------- I am alwasy makinga distnictiobne tweepnr oofa nde videnceI, thinkw e willn everh avew hatw ille vers atisfay materialistic orientatesdc ientistisd eal,i t'sn everg oingt o workl ike that.I t willn ots hapei tseltfo thatm entalitIy ,t hinki t's invitinugs outo f thatw ayo f thinkingb,u tt herei s evidence andt hee videncteh ats omethinigs goingo n is overwhelming. We (the UFO studyc ommuni)t ytendt o get fragmenteadn d to arguea mongsotu rselvesI.' mi nterestiend h owg roupd ivisions canb e overcomteo enablues to becommeo ree ffectivbee,c ause I thinkt hatt hisf ieldh asa lott o saya bouth umani detnity, transrfmoationo f consciousnestsh,e futureo f the human speciest,h er elationshoifp o urselveass spirituable ingsi n theu niverse. I am alsoi nterestiend t hep henomenoofn w hatm ightb e called "differentiaple rcepti"o.nO fteny ou heart hatw hent herew ere peoplei n group,s omew oulds eea UFOv eryc learlayn do thers in the groupw ouldn ot see it, othersw oulds eec olo ursa nd somew ouldn ot. I feelt hatt hisi s somethintgh ath ast o be betterd ocumentedN.o te verybodiyn thisf ieldp erceives the same,a s our notionso f realityd ependo n the fact that everybodhya s to havet hes amee xperienfcoer i t to be real, whereast his suggesttsh at therea re realitietsh at are diffreentiallpye rceiveadn dI thinkt hati s veryi mportantto document.T herei s a mentalityI, c alli t "Sagasnmi", the attitudoef mind thsata ys if you can• tp rove thiins the materiawlo rldt,h eny ou cand ismistsh e entimraet ter. Thereh asb eena certaidne lightth att hem ediah avet akeno ver watchintgh e way thatt he UFOc ommunithya ves plinteroevde r thatf i1 m (R oswelAlu tops).y Thats eemst o be sucha general phenomentah,e w ayt hatw e endu p bickerinagn df ightinagm ong ourselvesso, I 'mv eryi nterestiend a ddressitnhga t. In JohnW hitmoreb•oso k( an America'nc hannell)e,r t•here'as statemenitn theref rom" then ine"w heret heys ayv eryc learly "theE arthi s noty ourst o destroyw,e wi1 1n otp ermity ou to destrotyh eE arthi,t doesn otb elontgo ones pecies". Youh aveh earda boutt hef lapt hatI goti ntoa t Harvardi,t wasa boutt hen otiotn hatt herei sn'to ner eality.Th eS enior Deanw ho summonemde , saidt hat "youw oudln 1 t haveg ot into troublief you hadn otr aisedt heq uestioinn your bookt hat thisr equireadn expansioonf ourn otionosf realiyt." Thatw asm y hersey, if I hads implys aidt hath erea ret hese casest hatI can• te xplaiann d oned ay a fellowp sychiatrist willf inda newd iagnositsh,a tw ouldh aveb eenf ine,b uti t's whenI saidt hatw e needt o changeo urn otionosf realittyo understatnhdi s,h e saidt hati f I hadn'hta ved onet hat.,there wouldn'hta veb eena n investigation. 3 I don'tk noww hats tartetdh ei nvestigatitohne,c losesIt can comet o it was a remarmka deb y the univeirtsy lawyero n the committeree presentitnhge PresidenOtfsf icew,h o saidt o my 1a w y" w e hr a t d o y o u1 i tk he i fn·h oke ri D tte 'a sn o f t h e H a r v a r d Medeia 1 Schoolt o see one of his professorgso ingo n Oprah Wifnrey (TVc hats how)a nd sayingt hatl ittleg reenm en are abductinmge n,w omena ndc hildren?I" d idn'sta y that,b utt he thingw ast hatI wash ighp rofiloen them ediaa t thet imet he bookc ameo ut. One of the timesI met withh im (theD ean)h e said" if your purposwea st o geta crosas particulpaori nto f view abotuhti s phenomenoyno,u h aves ucceedeadn"d h e didn'sta y thath appiyl. In otherw ordst,h ep ointo f view beitnhga tt hisi nvolved some otheri ntellige.n ce Therew as nevera ny chargseu,c ha s a cliento bjectintgo anythintgh at I ever did, or anythingt hat I had aired scientiicfalyl, it waso nly thatI wash ighp rofilaen da lot of callsw erec omingi n (toH arvarUdn iversyi),t objectintgo my stancien them atter. Them atteirs nowc losedI, hada meetinwgi tht heD ean'sa,n d basicayl lthey saidt hatt hey respectemdy rightt o explore whatt hey called" phenomenoaf hedaroixd eaolg y" and thatI shoulda dheret o the highs tandardosf the HarvardM edical Schoolt,h ey didn'ts ay Ih adn'tb,u t slightyl by implication thatI perhapIs couldb e bettearn dt hatw ast hat! OVNIE ditoOrm arF owlers,h arinag jokew ithO r JohnE . Mack. 4 THER AY SANTLILI ALIENA UTPOSYF ILM Controverissy sti1 1r agingo vert he recents howinogn TV of the aliena utopsyf ilmc laimintgo show onoef the bodies retrievefdr omt he "RoswelClr as"h. The burningq uestion remainsi,s it authentic? The body may wellb e thato f an alien,b ut althougshu ch peculiaritaise ss ixf ingerasr ea knownm edicafla cti n human beingst,h isd oesn otc omplwyi tht heg eneradle scriptigoinv en by witnessewsh oc laimt o haveb een involwvietdh t heR oswell recoevry. In fact informatigoani nedb y the 1a te Leonard Stringfielad ,f oremosrte searcheirn the retrievafli eld, showst hata lienmsa yw ellh avea tendenctyo fourf ingernso t six! {see LeonSatrrdi nfgield'psu blicatiboenl ow). 3 Len: Thibso nes tructiusbr aes eodn t hed imensioofna sn e nlargderda wing inr epor#t2b utw itfhi ngesrpsr eatdoc omparwei th drawoifhn ugm an bones(.A lsIor eversiettd o t her ighhta ndf ors amer efereansch eu man drawing). - RADIUS ULNA- I'mg uessihnegr eb,u t wouldn eedt ob es omething likteh itso b endl ikwee CARPALB ONES discus!sSeedc A.- 1. WRISTB ONES f A META CARPALB ONES - May bet oos horbtu,t much shortehru mtahna.n On humant hiiss straight. FIRSPTH ALANX - Looka th umanT.h ese arem uchh eavier.- To flesthh iosu t, takoev erlaanyd p lace ito vert hea reyao u wantt ol ooakt . -Reed9 /6/80 Upperl ef(t1 i)s a shtcho ft heh ;mdI d rewf ort hec ritivciaf'lwo fa formeCr. I.eAm.p loyeien1 978w,ho claimetdoh aves een dt'cea!>aeldi ednusr inag r ecoveirnyN ew Mexico, 1H9e6 a2d.v i!>eodn lyt haItr emovae smalplr otrudniunbgw hicIhd epictiend­ dicatian vge !'tigtihaulm b. Two renditiboyna !'r tiAsItR t'eds howinhga nds tructmh<'o;p infgo rf urthgt>uri dt'libnyem sy mt'dicaslo urcweh oa llegepdelry­ forrna('nda utop!>oyna na liebno dyi ne arl1y9 50'Nso.t et ot hel ef(t2 )hi,st exturceodn c('ptoifot nh eh andb aseodn m y sketcahn,d t o ther igh(t.3 )i,ths y pothetbiocnaels tructure. UFOC RASHES A lisftr omt hef ileso f researchLeero narSdt ringfieslhdo wing thec laimendu mbeorf UFOc rashedsu rintgh ey ears1 9471-979. Couldt hea liena utopshya vei nvolvead c rasheUdF Oc rafto ther thant he Rosweliln cident? Howeverw,e understantdh att he filmh asb eenc onfirmeads beingo f 1947m anufacture. CHRONOLOGY OF CASESR EPORTEDI N THEU FO CRASH/RETRIEVASLY NDROME,S TATUSR EPORT1 1 WorldW ar1 1:E ngland. CrashSeodu rccream:fi tl.i taorffyi ce(rC.a sAe- 1,C omment) 1947:N earR oswell, MNeexwi coF.r agments of apparent obcsrearshvbeeyddA icrFr oarfctoe ff ice(rC.a sAe- 10) 1948:C rashed cprlaubfsot d yr,e portbeydn ewspapceqrl umni(sItt.e Bm- 14) 1948o r1 950:M exicon,e aDre lR ioT,e xasA.i rF orcoef ficoebrs ervcerda shcerda fatn do neb ody(.I teBm- 7) 1950:C aliforAniirac .r ewmaonb servecdr afitnN avyh anga(rI.t eBm- 5) 1952:N ew MexicoF.o rmeAri rF orcrea dasrp ecialleiasrtn oefdc rashcerda fatn db odie(sC.a sAe- 9) 1952:W right-PattAeFrB,sO ohni oM.i litaorfiyfc enro,w r etirseadw,o neb odyS.a wm ovief ilomf cr(asfeCtea seA -9)U,F O filaets NORAD, ColoraSdpor ingCso,l ora(dsoe ael sIot emB -3)(.C asAe- 4) 1953:J ohannesbSu.rA gf,r icrae,t rie(vCaals.Ae - 6) 1953:A rizonMai.l itary offtihcreerbe o dsiaewos n,e f emalaet,W right-PattAePrBs,Oo hni ol,e arnedc roafs hcerda fitnA rizona. (CasAe- 1) 1953:W right-PattAePrBs,Oo hni oT.e chnicrieapno rtperde senocf1e 3 b odies, wsraiwt treenp orcotn firmiitnL.ge arntewdo c raft werea tL anglAeFyD ,V irgin(iIat.e Bm- 6) 1953:D eseratr eaM.o vief ilomf c rashcerda fatn dt hrebeo diesse ebny f ormeAri rF orcoef fic(esreC ea seA -4)a, f ormeAri rF orce radar specai faolrimsetAr,r myr adar specainadl( iasbto,u1 t9 56b)y a formeAri rF orcoeff ice(rC.a sAe- 9) 1957:S outhwest UniteFdo rSmteaArti erFs o.r cSee rgealneta rnferdo mG eneral about ccrraafastnh dfe do ubro diecsr,a sfhti pped byr aitlo W right-PattAeFrBs,Oo hni o(.C asAe- 5) 1962:N ew MexicnC.r ash('cdr afttw,o h ndi<'sh,(' adb and" communicat(osre"Ce a seA -7,C omm('nt)S.o urceB:o b Barry, allf.'gf.'fdrloymC IAc ontac(tC.a sAe- 6) 1964:F t.R ileKya,n saCsr,a shecdr afrte portbeyde nlismtaendo ng uarddu tyc,o nfirmbeyds eparastoeu rc(eC.a sAe- 8) 1965:N earK ecksburPge,n nsylvania. CrasShoeudr cecC:rl aafrtMk.c CiellaNnAdS,A employe(eI.t eBm- 1) 1966:W right-PattAeFrBs,Oo hni oN.i neb odieosb servbeyd f ormeArr myI ntelligoeffnicceen ro,w a businessman. tLheearrtin ed were3 0b odiepsl ucsr ashcerda fCti.t efdi vcer ashdeusr in1g9 60'asn ds ecret comfpiultoeensrU FOs( CasAe- 3) 1968:N ellAiFsB , NevaFdoar.m eAri rF orcSee rgeant desTcorpSi ebcerdre etp oornta UFO landianngd e ncountweirt hhu manoids durinwgh icCho lonewla sp aralyzaenddw eaponwse re" jammedl,e"a rnferdo mA irF orcGee nera(lC.a sAe- 5) 1973:L ocatinoonts tateAdi.rP olicemoabns ervtehdr ebeo die(sC.a sAe- 2) 1975:M ichigaCnr.a shecdr af(tI.t eBm- 4) 1977:O hioV.i oleenntc ountreerp ortbeedt weeUnF O humanoiadnsd U .S.M ilitafroyr ce(sI.t eBm- 13) 1978:A rgentiOnbaj.e cctr ashiendm ountainrse,p orotfU .SA.i rF orcree trie(vIatle.Bm - 8) 1979:P ennsylvaBnoiday.r etrieavleodn rgo adsiAdpep. arenhto ax(.I teBm- 14) 6 c 0 uT LH ED I A L II BE EN "A R G ti? t y We haver eproducaend extracftr oma n America"nu nderground" document cal"lTheed Blue Plane"t. This claimst o be a documendte tailintgh et ypeso f alienvs isitinEga rtha ndt he u.s. Governmenti'nsv olvement.T he detailcso ncern" The Gresy", describebdy or John E. Macka s being" teh workebre es of thea lieni ntellicgee"n. Notet hef ourf ingers • • • • GREYS TYPE A TypeA 'sar et hel argenos.od Greyfsr othem RieglS tar.Th ese Greyarse ones withw homou r Government has a treaty. DATA • The approximct.e heightis 3t.o5� .f5e ett aJI.So me approximatet)'5 foot Theirw eight ls approldma140 epoulynds. • Two� 1-tound ed black D'fOS,w i\Mul pupils.. They are large.aJ mond-shaped, elongatsedu,n ken or doop set. fara part. st'ghtslylo.nt ed ,a ppe.ari ng �ri&rrt ar ()( •Mongolokr. • The hBad. by humastnan dards,is largweh enco mpared with the slze of torso and limbs. • Noe ar lobes Of' prOU\J.Sive fte.sh ex1endibe�y ondape rtureson eachs ldeof the head. • Nose h long and vagueT.w ona. � openingaTse Indicatwedit ho nlys ligphtr otuberanler. • Mouth islnd fc:al&d as a smaD •strrw ithout lps.i. openingi ntao smal l cavity� whicaphpe ars rd lofu nctlon as m&anS a coovnunb1 ion or an orifk:e forf ood Ingestion. • N eddescn bod as being thin:and In s.c>m8 inst � � b&ing visible bocause or garm enl on. thal �dlhe body . • The head Is hajriess. • The IOfSO h smaJ1 and thin. • N� they w&ar a �amc txA fteXJbkt garmert. • Arms are long and thin and reaching down lothe kneeS&d k>n c:l the body . • • The hands have fourfi ngM each. blA no thumb. Twofin ge�ap pear k>nger than the others on each hand. They have some kind of Joog fingemans. A sligwhte bbinegff ect between eachfi nger exist-. , L&gsart shcx1 and thh 1hEMr f&et arw ne an orangutans f&el • ThErf have no leedl. • Thetr skin doscriptioo ls some kindd betge. tan brown. or tannish or pinkish grey colof' . The 1eux1ra as SC41y or r9p( iliat\and as st1 e<chab&e ,etastic or mobiki over s.mooth muscle or skeJetal tissue.N ostriaS &d muscle. Ugtc porspiras ion and very part tcular body odor . Und9f ma gnlfica1 Jon the lls.we cl skinst ruct ureap pear1 lobe a mesh,or like a gOd network or horlzontaJ perpendicular &nes.. Thet sugg&st \hal the lex1urmate be slmnarl othat of the granular-slizkaridsn,n suched as the Iguana and/or Chamoleof\ and may be similar toat least ono therty pe of alien humanoid. A " Grey" Is the "Triangle" sign1fainct? Do they pilott he "FTS'"? A 'st11 1f1r omt hea utopsfyi lm. 7 THER AY SANTLILI AUTOPSYF ILM: THEQ UESTIOSN REMAIN! On thep revioutsh reep agesy ou willh aver eads ufficiednatt a to questiotnh ea uthenticiotfy t he "RoswelAlu tops"y film,y et therer emaint antalizicnlgu est hat the film may well be authentic. We haveh eardo n gooda uthorittyh att hef ilmh asb eena nalysed andi t hasb eenc onfirmeads beingo f 1974 manufactureT.h e nexta nalysiwsi1 1i nvolvteh ea ctual datoifn tgh ey ear that thee mulsioonn thef ilm was expoWsee udn.d erstatnhda tt his cano nlyb e carrieodu tb y onel aboratoirny t hew orlda ndt hat is in France.I f thisp rovest o duringt he year 1947,t hen thisw illo nly raimsoer eq uestionasb outt he" alie"n shown. Anotheqru estiotnh atw as raisede arlyo n, was the dateo f manufactuorfe t he "coield" telephonwei res howni n thea utopsy scene. Itw asc laimetdh att hec oiled tyopfe t elephonwei re hadn otb eeni n useu ntilt hee arly6 0's,b utw e nowb elieve thatt hist ypeo f wirec amei ntos ervicaeb out1 944. Thereh asb eens omes peculatiaosn t o whethetrh eb odys howni s actuallay dumm,y but moret hano nem edicaolp iniohna s been expressesdt atintgh ati t is an actual" bod"y, but of what, remainsu nanswered.T he openingo f the chestr evealendo organst hatw erer ecogniseasd humana nd whent he skullw as opened,t he brains howeda markedd ifferencteo the normal humanc onvolutions. PhilipM antle( the BUFORAD irectoorf Investigatiohnass) statedt hatw hilew atchintgh e filmw ith Santillii,n the latter'osf fice,t heyf reeze-mferda the videoc opy of the autopsfyo otagaen dw erea blet o makeo utt hen ame "BOrro n"k on thea utopsdyo cument(sD r.B roniks supposedbleye na member of the 'Majestic1 2' committe.e )The nameO r Williamosr Willicso ulda lsob e seeno n thisd ocument. Thereh asb eena claimt hatt hef ilmw asm adei n Brazidlu ring the6 0's and alsot hati t was madea t FortW ortha n American militariyn stallationA.c cordintgo Roswelwli tnessest,h e autopstyo okp lacei n a hospitacll oset o thet owna nds everal mi1 i taryd octorsa nd a nursew erep resent.A pparentltyh e stencohf theb ody( bodiesw?a)s o verwhelmiansg t heyh adb een deadf ora numbeorf days.I t wasa lsoc laimetdh ato nea lien hads urvivetdh eR oswelclr asha ndh adb eenk epta liveb y the Americamni litarfyo rt woy ears (this wsahso wni n theA merican • TV filmp roducti.o n) Certainliyf the filmi s authentitch ent he authoritiweisl l have plantedv ariousd isi-nformatisotno riesa bouti t. But let's faicte it hasb eeno nlya sevend ayw ondera s fara s • • • theg eneraplu bliics concernedn owi f LadyD i's hedsa tear, • • • thent hatr ealliys news! 8 PETERR OBBINS& LARRY WARRENV ISIT THE EAST MIDLANDS (EMUFORMA EETING2 1stA ugus1t9 95) TonyJ ames,1e adero f the EMUFORAg roupi n Nottinghapmu lled offa nothesrc oopw iths urprisgeu estsL aryr Warre(nR endlesham ForestU SAF witness)a nd PeterR obbinso f the Intruders Foundatiaonnd a ssistantto BuddH opkinst,h ew orld'lse ading researchienrt oa liena bductiocna ses. Untilq uiter ecentyl Laryr Warrehna db eenu nablte o leavet he USAb ecausoef passpordti fficultieTsh.i si nvolveadn alleged , breacho f secuirty regardinhgi s disclosureasb out the "RendleshFaomr esti"n ciden(tD ecemb1e9r8 0)i n thev iciniyt of theW oodbridagned Bentwatemrisl itayr airfieldisn Suffolk. I PeterR obbingsa vea talkt o a packeda udiences,w eltenrgi in the summer heatH.e gavea n insighti ntot he worokf the IntrudersF oundatioann d describeda typical abduction scenariwoh eret he" abducteies" liablet o wakeu p in a state of distresasn dp ossiblwei thh is/henri ght attiinr dei sarray. Thea bducteweo uldp robabyl haves mallc utso r 'scoopm'a rkso n differentp artso f the body and be completye ulnawaroef how they camea bout. They wouldp robabyl havea vaguem emoryo f being" floatedo"u t of theirr oom. It was incorrectto concludteh att hese storiewse reo nly relateudn derh ypnosis and Peterp ointedo ut thatt wo thirdso f the abducteehsa d extremye lsolidm emorieosf thei ncidenatn darvee ry specific. Thisi s a memoyr of somtehingt hati s reala ndi s nota dream, it is nota n illusioni,t is a reale xperience. The abducteeosf tent urnt o the IntrudeFro undatifoonr help andi n somec asesw antt o be referretdo a medicaplr ofsesional whoc ould tell tthhaettm h eya rem entalliyl l,b ecausteh isi s preferabtloe t het houghotf whatm ay haveh appened. Peterw ento n to detaild evelopmenatnsd t hec hanginagt titude of the generaplu blici n thea bductiosnc enarios,t atintgh at theya re experiencbeyd peopleo f all types,r ace,a ge,s ex, wealtahn dp oliticaalf filiatiomnse,a nn othinign this. ' Garyr Stapleto(nPR A)c hattinwgi thP eterR obbin(sr ight) durinag breaki n proceedinagts t he EMUFORAm eeting. 9