Eric Newman < Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon 2 messages < Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:02 PM To: Dear Ms. Amazzitelli: I will be glad to try to cooperate with the New York Historical Society in the Audubon project you are undertaking. When the discovery of Audubon's grouse was written up by Robert Peck and myself we had hoped that it might be included in the New York Historical Society Quarterly, but we were informed that publishing in hard copy form was being discontinued. As a result we selected Journal of the Early Republic instead. . Original bank note sample sheets containing the grouse engraving are in the possession of the ERIC P. NEWMAN NUMISMATIC EDUCATION SOCIETY, a Missouri Not for Profit Corporation, and in a very few other collections so far as we know. There are two different undated sample sheets each containing one engraved grouse from the circa 1825 period. The undated sheet illustrated in our article has primarily quantities of people and scenes with a grouse in the bottom row as well as the name of Fairman Draper Underwood & Co in two places. The other undated sample sheet is primarily quantities of numerals or denominational insignia ( technically called counters) and the grouse is at the end of the second row of images from the bottom. I would suggest that you might wish to publish the latter sample sheet because it has never been published. I may include it in a numismatic magazine but you would reach an entirely different audience. I am the president of the education society which I formed in 1953 society and used your society's information in some of my books. My address is 6450 Cecil Ave., St. Louis MO 63105, My telephone is I hope I have been helpful. Eric P. Newman . In a message dated 1/20/2011 1:31:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Dear Mr. Newman, I am writing you on behalf of Roberta J.M. Olson, Curator of Drawings at the New-York Historical Society, to order a digital copy of the engraving Audubon's running grouse vignette, from a Fairman, Underwood & Co. sample sheet, c.1825, for publication as a small comparative image in a scholarly book: Audubon’s Aviary: The Watercolors for “The Birds of America.” The volume will be published jointly in 2012 by the New-York Historical Society, a non-profit institution, and Rizzoli. Bob Peck has kindly provided us with a low-resolution study image. He suggested we contact you directly for the 300 dpi high-resolution digital file. Would it be possible for you to please let us know when a high-resolution digital image will be available, who to write to obtain the rights and permissions we will need for publication, and the proper credit line required. Thank you very much for your time and attention to this inquiry. Sincerely, Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West\ New York, New York, 10024 Alex Mazzitelli < Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM To: Cc: Roberta Olson < Sorry for the delay but I was out of town for a few days. Roberta Olson wanted you to know that she read your article on the Audubon Grouse engraving to the editor of the New York Journal of American History, Valerie Paley, and they very much wanted to publish it and all regetted that the journal is no longer in hard copy. The image we would like to publish in Audubon's Aviary should be either the version you think is earliest or the image you think is best. We would be glad to have you send both images if you feel that the two versions are equivalent so we can choose, but you have been working with them and would be an excellent judge. Please let us know when you will be able to send the digital file--a high-resolution file will probably not e-mail successfully, so please send a CD attention to Roberta Olson and copy her ( on your e-mails if possible. Thank you so much for your help with this request. Alex. Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York [Quoted text hidden] 1/22/2019 Gmail - Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon Eric Newman < Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon 1 message Alex Mazzitelli < Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM To: Cc: Dear Mr. Newman, I am writing you on behalf of Roberta J.M. Olson, Curator of Drawings at the New-York Historical Society, to order a digital copy of the engraving Audubon's running grouse vignette, from a Fairman, Underwood & Co. sample sheet, c.1825, for publication as a small comparative image in a scholarly book: Audubon’s Aviary: The Watercolors for “The Birds of America.” The volume will be published jointly in 2012 by the New-York Historical Society, a non-profit institution, and Rizzoli. Bob Peck has kindly provided us with a low-resolution study image. He suggested we contact you directly for the 300 dpi high-resolution digital file. Would it be possible for you to please let us know when a high-resolution digital image will be available, who to write to obtain the rights and permissions we will need for publication, and the proper credit line required. Thank you very much for your time and attention to this inquiry. Sincerely, Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West\ New York, New York, 10024 https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1?ik=504c5c6882&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-f%3A1358484609389237993&simpl=msg-f%3A13584846093… 1/1 Eric Newman < Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon 2 messages < Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM To: Cc: We were about to Email you when we received your Valentine Day Message . Before we can give you our suggestions for the grouse image to be in "Audubon's Aviary" we would like to know the approximate size of a page, whether the page will be exclusively devoted to the grouse, how much text you would might use on that page other than a title, and possibly the two Audubon diary entries about the grouse or other related matters. Both of the banknote sample sheets on which the grouse appears for the first time were in my opinion seem to be simultaneously prepared during 1825 period, one featuring primarily many small decorative vignettes of scenes and people; the other containing primarily many counters (lettered and numbered denominational insignia) Only the first mentioned sample sheet has the engravers' name.on it. We could have full size photocopies of the bank note sample sheets sent to you if you wish. That might determine the number of high resolution images you need from us as we cannot do this in house. Ordinarily when we furnish material for publication we receive a copy of the publication .In your case this may be somewhat out of line if your cost per volume is going to be very large. Your suggestions along there lines will be appreciated. If you or members of your team wish to talk to us by telephone as to anything in the above please feel free to do so at In a message dated 2/14/2011 11:29:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Sorry for the delay but I was out of town for a few days. Roberta Olson wanted you to know that she read your article on the Audubon Grouse engraving to the editor of the New York Journal of American History, Valerie Paley, and they very much wanted to publish it and all regetted that the journal is no longer in hard copy. The image we would like to publish in Audubon's Aviary should be either the version you think is earliest or the image you think is best. We would be glad to have you send both images if you feel that the two versions are equivalent so we can choose, but you have been working with them and would be an excellent judge. Please let us know when you will be able to send the digital file--a high-resolution file will probably not e-mail successfully, so please send a CD attention to Roberta Olson and copy her ( on your e-mails if possible. Thank you so much for your help with this request. Alex. Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:02 PM, < wrote: Dear Ms. Amazzitelli: I will be glad to try to cooperate with the New York Historical Society in the Audubon project you are undertaking. When the discovery of Audubon's grouse was written up by Robert Peck and myself we had hoped that it might be included in the New York Historical Society Quarterly, but we were informed that publishing in hard copy form was being discontinued. As a result we selected Journal of the Early Republic instead. . Original bank note sample sheets containing the grouse engraving are in the possession of the ERIC P. NEWMAN NUMISMATIC EDUCATION SOCIETY, a Missouri Not for Profit Corporation, and in a very few other collections so far as we know. There are two different undated sample sheets each containing one engraved grouse from the circa 1825 period. The undated sheet illustrated in our article has primarily quantities of people and scenes with a grouse in the bottom row as well as the name of Fairman Draper Underwood & Co in two places. The other undated sample sheet is primarily quantities of numerals or denominational insignia ( technically called counters) and the grouse is at the end of the second row of images from the bottom. I would suggest that you might wish to publish the latter sample sheet because it has never been published. I may include it in a numismatic magazine but you would reach an entirely different audience. I am the president of the education society which I formed in 1953 society and used your society's information in some of my books. My address is 6450 Cecil Ave., St. Louis MO 63105, My telephone is I hope I have been helpful. Eric P. Newman . In a message dated 1/20/2011 1:31:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Dear Mr. Newman, I am writing you on behalf of Roberta J.M. Olson, Curator of Drawings at the New-York Historical Society, to order a digital copy of the engraving Audubon's running grouse vignette, from a Fairman, Underwood & Co. sample sheet, c.1825, for publication as a small comparative image in a scholarly book: Audubon’s Aviary: The Watercolors for “The Birds of America.” The volume will be published jointly in 2012 by the New-York Historical Society, a non-profit institution, and Rizzoli. Bob Peck has kindly provided us with a low-resolution study image. He suggested we contact you directly for the 300 dpi high-resolution digital file. Would it be possible for you to please let us know when a high-resolution digital image will be available, who to write to obtain the rights and permissions we will need for publication, and the proper credit line required. Thank you very much for your time and attention to this inquiry. Sincerely, Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West\ New York, New York, 10024 Alex Mazzitelli < Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM To: So sorry for the delay in responding to your request for further information, but we have been waiting for the publisher's designer to begin his work. Now to finally answer your questions: The approximate size of the image will be less than 5 x 5 inches, and although the page will be dedicated to the species, the main focus of it will be the Audubon watercolor for Havell Plate 186, the Pinnated Grouses that we now call Prairie Chickens. If there is no charge to NYHS for the reproduction of your image we can furnish you with a copy of the book as an honorarium. Can you send your hi-res images through your e-mail or will you send through a service [like You Send It] or on disc via standard post?? Please let us know your decision and which of the engravings you will be supplying to us. Thank you again for your help bringing this exciting project to fruition. Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York [Quoted text hidden] 1/22/2019 Gmail - Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon Eric Newman < Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon 2 messages < Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM To: Cc: We were about to Email you when we received your Valentine Day Message . Before we can give you our suggestions for the grouse image to be in "Audubon's Aviary" we would like to know the approximate size of a page, whether the page will be exclusively devoted to the grouse, how much text you would might use on that page other than a title, and possibly the two Audubon diary entries about the grouse or other related matters. Both of the banknote sample sheets on which the grouse appears for the first time were in my opinion seem to be simultaneously prepared during 1825 period, one featuring primarily many small decorative vignettes of scenes and people; the other containing primarily many counters (lettered and numbered denominational insignia) Only the first mentioned sample sheet has the engravers' name.on it. We could have full size photocopies of the bank note sample sheets sent to you if you wish. That might determine the number of high resolution images you need from us as we cannot do this in house. Ordinarily when we furnish material for publication we receive a copy of the publication .In your case this may be somewhat out of line if your cost per volume is going to be very large. Your suggestions along there lines will be appreciated. If you or members of your team wish to talk to us by telephone as to anything in the above please feel free to do so at In a message dated 2/14/2011 11:29:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Sorry for the delay but I was out of town for a few days. Roberta Olson wanted you to know that she read your article on the Audubon Grouse engraving to the editor of the New York Journal of American History, Valerie Paley, and they very much wanted to publish it and all regetted that the journal is no longer in hard copy. The image we would like to publish in Audubon's Aviary should be either the version you think is earliest or the image you think is best. We would be glad to have you send both images if you feel that the two versions are equivalent so we can choose, but you have been working with them and would be an excellent judge. Please let us know when you will be able to send the digital file--a high-resolution file will probably not e-mail successfully, so please send a CD attention to Roberta Olson and copy her ( on your e-mails if possible. Thank you so much for your help with this request. Alex. Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:02 PM, < wrote: Dear Ms. Amazzitelli: I will be glad to try to cooperate with the New York Historical Society in the Audubon project you are undertaking. When the discovery of Audubon's grouse was written up by Robert Peck and myself we had hoped that it might be included in the New York Historical Society Quarterly, but we were informed that publishing in hard copy form was being discontinued. As a result we selected Journal of the Early Republic instead. . Original bank note sample sheets containing the grouse engraving are in the possession of the ERIC P. NEWMAN NUMISMATIC EDUCATION SOCIETY, a Missouri Not for Profit Corporation, and in a very few https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1?ik=504c5c6882&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-f%3A1369626630064462364&simpl=msg-f%3A13607569131… 1/3 1/22/2019 Gmail - Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon other collections so far as we know. There are two different undated sample sheets each containing one engraved grouse from the circa 1825 period. The undated sheet illustrated in our article has primarily quantities of people and scenes with a grouse in the bottom row as well as the name of Fairman Draper Underwood & Co in two places. The other undated sample sheet is primarily quantities of numerals or denominational insignia ( technically called counters) and the grouse is at the end of the second row of images from the bottom. I would suggest that you might wish to publish the latter sample sheet because it has never been published. I may include it in a numismatic magazine but you would reach an entirely different audience. I am the president of the education society which I formed in 1953 society and used your society's information in some of my books. My address is 6450 Cecil Ave., St. Louis MO 63105, My telephone is I hope I have been helpful. Eric P. Newman . In a message dated 1/20/2011 1:31:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Dear Mr. Newman, I am writing you on behalf of Roberta J.M. Olson, Curator of Drawings at the New-York Historical Society, to order a digital copy of the engraving Audubon's running grouse vignette, from a Fairman, Underwood & Co. sample sheet, c.1825, for publication as a small comparative image in a scholarly book: Audubon’s Aviary: The Watercolors for “The Birds of America.” The volume will be published jointly in 2012 by the New-York Historical Society, a non-profit institution, and Rizzoli. Bob Peck has kindly provided us with a low-resolution study image. He suggested we contact you directly for the 300 dpi high-resolution digital file. Would it be possible for you to please let us know when a high-resolution digital image will be available, who to write to obtain the rights and permissions we will need for publication, and the proper credit line required. Thank you very much for your time and attention to this inquiry. Sincerely, Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West\ New York, New York, 10024 Alex Mazzitelli < Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM To: So sorry for the delay in responding to your request for further information, but we have been waiting for the publisher's designer to begin his work. Now to finally answer your questions: The approximate size of the image will be less than 5 x 5 inches, and although the page will be dedicated to the species, the main focus of it will be the Audubon watercolor for Havell Plate 186, the Pinnated Grouses that we now call Prairie Chickens. If there is no charge to NYHS for the reproduction of your image we can furnish you with a copy of the book as an honorarium. Can you send your hi-res images through your e-mail or will you send through a service [like You Send It] or on disc via standard post?? Please let us know your decision and which of the engravings you will be supplying to us. Thank you again for your help bringing this exciting project to fruition. Alexandra Mazzitelli https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1?ik=504c5c6882&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-f%3A1369626630064462364&simpl=msg-f%3A13607569131… 2/3 1/22/2019 Gmail - Re: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York [Quoted text hidden] https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1?ik=504c5c6882&view=pt&search=all&permthid=thread-f%3A1369626630064462364&simpl=msg-f%3A13607569131… 3/3 Eric Newman < Resending: Running Gouse Engraving by Audubon 3 messages Alex Mazzitelli < Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM To: Dear Dr. Newman, So sorry for the delay in responding to your request for further information, but we have been waiting for the publisher's designer to begin his work. Now to finally answer your questions: The approximate size of the image will be less than 5 x 5 inches, and although the page will be dedicated to the species, the main focus of it will be the Audubon watercolor for Havell Plate 186, the Pinnated Grouses that we now call Prairie Chickens. If there is no charge to NYHS for the reproduction of your image we can furnish you with a copy of the book as an honorarium. Can you send your hi-res images through your e-mail or will you send through a service [like You Send It] or on disc via standard post?? Please let us know your decision and which of the engravings you will be supplying to us. Thank you again for your help bringing this exciting project to fruition. Alexandra Mazzitelli Research Associate New-York Historical Society 170 Central Park West New York, New York On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM, < wrote: We were about to Email you when we received your Valentine Day Message . Before we can give you our suggestions for the grouse image to be in "Audubon's Aviary" we would like to know the approximate size of a page, whether the page will be exclusively devoted to the grouse, how much text you would might use on that page other than a title, and possibly the two Audubon diary entries about the grouse or other related matters. Both of the banknote sample sheets on which the grouse appears for the first time were in my opinion seem to be simultaneously prepared during 1825 period, one featuring primarily many small decorative vignettes of scenes and people; the other containing primarily many counters (lettered and numbered denominational insignia) Only the first mentioned sample sheet has the engravers' name.on it. We could have full size photocopies of the bank note sample sheets sent to you if you wish. That might determine the number of high resolution images you need from us as we cannot do this in house. Ordinarily when we furnish material for publication we receive a copy of the publication .In your case this may be somewhat out of line if your cost per volume is going to be very large. Your suggestions along there lines will be appreciated. If you or members of your team wish to talk to us by telephone as to anything in the above please feel free to do so at In a message dated 2/14/2011 11:29:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, writes: Sorry for the delay but I was out of town for a few days. Roberta Olson wanted you to know that she read your article on the Audubon Grouse engraving to the editor of the New York Journal of American History, Valerie Paley, and they very much wanted to publish it and all regetted that the journal is no longer in hard copy. The image we would like to publish in Audubon's Aviary should be either the version you think is earliest or the image you think is best. We would be glad to have you send both images if you feel that the two versions are equivalent so we can choose, but you have been working with them and would be an excellent judge.