Case: State of Missouri v. Darren Wilson Transcript of: Grand Jury Date: August 20, 2014 This transcript is printed on 100% recycled paper 515 Olive Street, Suite 300 St. Louis, MO 63101 (314) 241-6750 1-800-878—6750 Fax: (314) 241-5070 Email: [email protected] Internet: < <www.goreperry.com > > State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 AUGUST 20, 2014 Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. goreperryeom Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 Page 2 RCU T COURT OE ST. LOUIS COUNTY STATj OE MHSSOURi 218T JJD C A? C RCU ” Lb 5 6 7 8 9 L0 L1 L2 L3 :\ Lb The following is a transcript o: the Grand Jury proceedings, as the o "ices o: St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney's O""ice, lOO South Central Avenue, in the City 0 C'ayton, Stave o_ Missouri, on the 20th day of August, 2014, before Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. goreperryeom Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 L'S Ol:' COUNSH li'OR 'i'HL' S'i'A'i'L': DUMP Mr. Robert McCulloch, Ms. Kathi Alizadeh and Ms. #5 Sheila Whirley 5 Prosecu:ing Attorney's O 1C6 6 lOO Sou:h Central Avenue, 2nd Floor 7 Clayton, MO 63105 8 (314) 615—2600 9 L0 L1 L2 L3 :\ Lb Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. goreperryeom Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 :NTRODUCT: ON Than MR. MCCULLOCi: k you. 'm for the Prosecutor, the record. i want McCulloch, to talk to you a little bit about this. As you are Lb well aware o: what we are here about and that is the 5 shooting death 0 " Michael Rrow I1. 6 this is going' i want to tell you how 7 proceed. Obviously, it is goi 1g to be di""eren 8 the other cases from a lot 0: that you've heard, 9 term. l0 that you've heard during your ll first. First things Let me introduce, l2 These two say a lot o_ this you already know. ladies, Shelia ’3 tor the record, Kathi Alizadeh, if not the they will be the primary, Whirley, :\ Lb exclusive attorneys working in the grand jury on this case. Obvious' bviously, there be a y, " hope, 0 things outside 0; us other people working on , O tting it ready for the presentation that will be made by Kathi and/or Sheila. have on call Kathi was the prosecutor I for al l homicide calls. So for the month o: August she received the call about th is shooting within Police were notified minutes 0: the time the County by the Ferguson Police. So sh e has been working Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 www.g0reperry.c0m d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc Electronically signed by State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 Page 6; with the police and lots 0: other things on this since the very beginning. My procedure is always that l have a prosecutor on call solely for homicide cases and Lb they stay with that case from start to finish, 5 whatever that ultimately may be. 6 Sheila, as you know, has been assigned to 7 the grand jury for this term and so she will 8 continue with this grand jury on this case for as 9 l0 long as it does take. ll There are a few things I do wan to go l2 over, first and foremost, to tell you that this is l3 the first, last and probably the only time I think that you will see me in relation to this case. :\ Lb Certainly in the grand jury. Everything that we do, everything that you do, will be recorded with the court reporter, who is under the same oath, essentially, as all the witnesses. As I said, Kathi and Sheila will be the primary attorneys, the attorneys responsible for presenting everything to the grand jury. Really, I'm going to go over just a few things to make sure that we have kind 0: the ground rules, but the procedure covered. As you know, your term ends on the 10th 0: Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. g0reperry.c0m Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 Page 7 September. You also have dockets, there is no docket next week, but on the 3rd and 10th, we have dockets. Those dockets will be adjusted, but they won't be canceled. Bit they will be adjusted to Lb accommodate whatever time that we need :or 5 presentations on this case. 6 This case is still in the middle of an 7 investigation, there is a lot going on and certainly 8 you are well aware o: what's going on in the 9 l0 evenings and during the day and even out in _ ll the courthouse here on occasions. l2 So there is a lot that is still going on l3 with the o""icers gathering th vid nc , vid nc is being tested, being evaluated. I say evaluated, :\ Lb it is being looked at, firearms evidence, the tirearms people are lOOking at that, DNAGVidenCer the DNAare examining that. In addition, the federal government, U.S. Department o_ Justice, is doing a parallel, but an independent inveStigation o: the same thing. So a lot o_, actually everything pretty much that the County Police or any other State or local department is doing is being replicated by the J.S. Attorney, by the E%, or by the JuStice Department, they are all part of the JuStice Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. g0reperry.c0m Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 Page 8 Department. forth and there As that is going back and is some witnesses they will be talking to that the County Police may not necessarily be talking to. Lb had talked to that they haven't Some that the County 5 or won't talk to. but all of that will be And so, 6 traded. the statements we We're giving them all 7 have, they are passing statements and any Other 8 information that they have on this matter back to 9 l0 US. ll So it is still independent or one another, l2 the in:formation because what is but sharing significant l3 to this case is also significant to theirs. "erent They are looking at di :\ Lb possibilities. federal government and the state The W hav th s criminal government are not th sam they look at potential civil rights charges, violations, but for the same conduct that we are criminal violations. looking at for any potential a little So that may add a little bit, really don't want to say a delay, o: a delay. order here kind or giving things to you out o_ Like a trial, lots 0 in"ormation is somewhat. going to come to you and it is going to come out Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 www.g0reperry.c0m d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc Electronically signed by State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 Page 9; chronological order. Wewill kind 0: go through that just as a schedule. The schedule is juSt that. There will be time i: we have a particular area, just for example, the DNAevidence. Lb is avai'ab'e or when that is available and a'l 5 the is avai'ab'e, not just part o_ it, we will have 6 : that time that is in the next two weeks to presen' 7 is a number o_ witness to you all at once. " i 8 statements, we will present all Of those to you 9 . We l0 will have it all organized and bring it in. ll By the time everything is finished, you l2 will have heard everything, you will have every l3 statement, there will be as many witnesses to come in and testify. :\ Lb " they made statements, you will not only get the s tements they mad , wh ,h r ,h y ar to the internet or police, Es , or television or on anything else. we've got those statements, you will have those Statements. You will also have the witness who will come in and testify as to that. Some certainly might be they are juSt statements that are floating around on the internet and nobody knows who is making that statement, but everybody is doing that and the rs is doing what those or the source 0: they can to locate any 0: Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. gorep erry.com d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc Electronically signed by State of Missouri V. Darren Wilson Grand Jury August 20, 2014 So the schedule though after September 10th, your term is extended, and the only matter that you will hear anything on will be this Michael Brown case, the Michael Brown shooting. All you get is that so you won't have the docket. There will be anOther grand jury that starts the week after that who will be doing what you have been doing for the past four months. By the way, greatly appreciate your service on that. I don't want to lose that in the message here. You have done a great job, a great service for the people 0: this county. But the schedu'e wil' then, it is as Slexible as flexible can be. It is the only mat' that you have and so there is no requirement that you meet on Wednesdays. So whenever all 12 people are available, because all the evidence will be presented to all 12, so we get all 12 o: you together, we will work with everybody's schedule. Obviously, we want to be as expeditious as possible, but not rush through it. "t that means we are meeting tour hours in the morning and whatever works is what we are going to do. Saturdays, evenings, however it works for everybody's schedule, Gore Perry Reporting and Video FAX 314-241-6750 314-241-6750 W. g0reperry.c0m Electronically signed by d5c6c720-281b-4bd3-b556-f277df197ecc